Huge win for car owners! All TSBs to be made public. The Center for Auto Safety just made the NHTSA (US Government) make public the full text of all TSBs from now on. They are the same organization that has petitioned the NHTSA & filed lawsuits to protect car owners over exploding gas tanks & other major safety issues. Whenever you drive in your car, you are safer thanks in part to a lot of work over the years by this small but very effective consumer advocacy group.

Please take a moment & say thank you by donating $5 or whatever you can to the Center for Auto Safety. Notes: Engine cradle rot is a serious problem in the 2004-05 Chrysler Pacifica. Chrysler admits they didn't apply enough coating to the vehicle's sub-frame during assembly, but only offered to cover a very small portion of the vehicles they messed up.

So what happens when your engine cradle rots? Well, the engine could fall out for starters. It could also cause problems with the suspension and other components but did I mention THE ENGINE CAN FALL OUT? The worst part is you might not know because there's no way to see the problem without getting under the car.

If you have a 2004-05 Pacifica, make sure to have your mechanic inspect your sub-frame for rust and corrosion.


really awful
Crashes / Fires:
1 / 5
Injuries / Deaths:
1 / 0
Average Mileage:
106,258 miles

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2005 Chrysler Pacifica Owner Comments (Page 1 of 9)

problem #178

May 062016


  • 167,750 miles


Gas gauge fluctuates to empty with light and chime announcing no gas, but there is a three quarter tank full of gas. The engine turns off and steering locks without power. Used car purchased yesterday and we were stranded until we filled the tank with three gallons the car was in motion the first time it stalled. The second time it was idling at a stop light. The third time was in a parking lot. I turned the engine off than back on it resumed. We were heading in a straight directions.

- Olathe, KS, USA

problem #177

Oct 142015


  • 144,000 miles
Typical rust through of engine cradle sub frame (K frame) of a Pacifica SUV almost causing the engine to drop through to the ground. Discovered the rust through, and subsequent engine shift, in mid October 2015 @ approximately 144,000 miles, while car was up on a lift. Car was no longer drivable due to this condition. Had a local Chrysler dealership's repair shop to replace the cradle frame and motor mounts shortly thereafter. They disavowed any help or their involvement in getting Chrysler to cover the repair of a known defect. Called Chrysler's customer service and was told my Pacifica was not part of the extended warranty issued for a small number of and short production run of Pacificas. Am attempting to again contact Chrysler customer service via letter and ask for help with the cost of repairs. Also trying to join the class action group that is suing Chrysler over this issue. Law firm in columbus, oh is lead counsel on the case. I love this car for all its attributes and that is was developed, built and sold while Mercedes Benz owned Chrysler, giving it a much higher quality in my opinion. Present day Fiat Chrysler doesn't seem to want to help out on this issue.

- Naperville, IL, USA

problem #176

Apr 012016


  • 104,000 miles
Engine cradle rot I've had the car since 04/27 2016, bought it from a dealer I know knew this model had rust issues they put it on the lot anyway.

- Hale, MI, USA

problem #175

Jan 152016


  • 154,500 miles


The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica. While the vehicle was taken to an independent mechanic for routine oil change, the technician noticed that the engine cradle was corroded and cracked on the right side. The vehicle was not diagnosed nor repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 154,500.

- Hobart, IN, USA

problem #174

Mar 212016


  • 137,000 miles
My engine cradle is rusted/rotted out and completely unsafe to drive. I was told it can't pass inspection and will be approximately $2,000 to fix. After researching online, this is a very common problem with the 2004 - 2008 Pacificas. A recall is needed.

- Tonawanda, NY, USA

problem #173

Mar 212016


  • 204,446 miles
The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica. While driving at high speeds, the front end of the vehicle shook violently. When the vehicle was taken in for routine maintenance, the technician stated that the engine cradle was severely corroded. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was not made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was 204,446.

- Muskegon, MI, USA

problem #172

Feb 292016


  • miles


Purchased 2005 Chrysler Pacifica limited 4 years ago. Currently 109,000 miles.. had been hearing a clunky noise for a short time took it in to get checked😔 mechanic came back with ghastly news. Tie rods, bushings, water pump, rear axle shaft oilseal and worst of all cradle was rusting through. Over $7000 to fix all. I thought I would faint. No way could I do all the repairs. Upon reading all complaints Chrysler should fix the rustimg problem. Shame on them for letting these cars on the road knowing this could happen to families purchasing their vehicles and possibly having a fatal accidemt occuring when the engine falls out.

- Rockford, MN, USA

problem #171

Jan 102016


  • 135,000 miles
The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica. The contact stated that there was a progressing failure with the vehicle idling high and making an abnormal noise. In addition, the rpms raced abnormally without warning when the vehicle was being driven at any rate of speed. The vehicle was taken to an authorized dealer for diagnostic testing who kept the vehicle longer than two weeks. The dealer was unable to provide a specific diagnosis to repair the vehicle. The dealer stated that it may be the computer, a sensor(s), or the PCM. The vehicle was not included in NHTSA campaign number: 06V432000 (power train). The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The approximate failure mileage was 135,000.

- Lexington, TN, USA

problem #170

Jan 152016


  • 138,000 miles
The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler pecifica. While the vehicle was being serviced at the dealer, it was observed that the engine cradle was severely corroded. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The VIN was invalid. The approximate failure mileage was 138,000.

- Buffalo Grove, IL, USA

problem #169

Jan 122016


  • 99,000 miles
During a routine oil change, my mechanic said the front frame and engine mounts were severely rusted and the car would become inoperable.

- Port Washington, NY, USA

problem #168

May 012015


  • 88,000 miles


My vehicle began stalling while being driven on the street and highways, when turning and while stopped for light changes. Had to have battery "jumped" or charged several times. Battery had to be replaced twice because of discharged from alternator. Had alternator replaced. Battery continued to drained. Vehicle ran for one day and completely shut down while in motion. After jump starting the battery, vehicle ran for a couple of minutes. Was told by service mechanics, battery or alternator problems even after having those parts replaced. Finally had the vehicle towed to dealership that specialized in Chrysler and was shock when he stated it was the PCM (powertrain control module) which I believed and researched was part a recall for 2005 Pacificas in 2006. Told by the dealership that the fuel pump was fixed which is not the problem of this vehicle. The PCM is the problem, and the dealership is not owning this. I did not purchase the vehicle until 2010; so I honestly believed that this problem was not repair but claimed to had been. When referencing the recall notification (which I did not receive personally), the fuel pump problem was replaced for 2004 models not 2005 models. PCM problems were that of the 2005 models which was not repaired or replaced for this vehicle. I have had my vehicle towed approximately 7 times now. I am still paying insurance for a vehicle that is unable to be driven. The dealership wants to charge me $1000 for repair, that is a little less that half of what the vehicle is worth.

- Hampton, VA, USA

problem #167

Dec 012015


  • 120,000 miles
The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica. The contact stated that the engine cradle was rusted. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was 120,000. The VIN was not available.

- Medfield, MA, USA

problem #166

Nov 142015

Pacifica 6-cyl

  • 80,500 miles
Rust through of engine cradle at various spots on engine cradle. I'm the original owner. The car has 80500 miles. Contacted fca via phone. Fca says my Pacifica does not fit the narrowly defined manufacture date of 02/28/2004 to 03/31/2004. My Pacifica was manufactured ON08/2004 and therefore does not qualify for extended warranty coverage. My local fca dealer gave me an estimate of about $ 2600 to replace. This problem was noticed during a routine oil change recently. I am the only one who drives the car on a limited basis with no passengers.

- Green Bay, WI, USA

problem #165

Apr 012014


  • miles
My mechanic informed me that the engine cradle on my car is completely rotted out and is a serious issue which is a fatality hazard. He gave me a copy of Chrysler "extended warranty period" written notice for this issue for Pacifica model years 2004-2005. I called them and they stated that I'm not covered because my car was built in 8/04 and not between 3/04-4/04. The notice does not state that the cars need to be built in a particular month. Their statement makes no sense to me and I think they are lying. All of the signs of their notice is what I have have been experiencing for over a year, the "corrosion resulting in drivability vibration and/or shake." Could you please help me I love my car but can't afford the repair cost and they need to stand by their awareness of the defect and written warranty coverge notice. The notice is labeled as "[xxx]". thank you. Information redacted pursuant to the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6).

- Randolph, MA, USA

problem #164

Jul 302015


  • 137,000 miles
The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica. While driving 30 mph and applying the brake pedal to come to a stop, the front end of the vehicle began to shake. The vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure. The failure mileage was 137,000.

- Nottingham, MD, USA

problem #163

Sep 252015


  • 151,000 miles
On the highway there were these vibrations in the pacific so my husband and I took the car to the mechanic which recommended new suspension so we got those. The problem wasn't fixed my husband took it to another mechanic for new tires, suspension and alignment to be told that our only means of transportation was not fit to drive because the subframe completely has rotted out. Thank god he did that, I'm horrified my child was in it all this time. My husband and I called the number 1 800-992-1997 DaimlerChrysler. To be told there is nothing that can be done for us the mileage of the car was outside warranty. The mechanic's quote for is over $2000. I'm not sure what to do right now to get to work and manage my usual weekly errands.

- Grand Rapids, MI, USA

problem #162

Sep 182015


  • 134,000 miles
During routine yearly state inspection, inspector found that engine cradle was rotted out.. the engine cradle has big hole on right side from rot. I have been told by numerous body shops that this part of frame should never rust through.

- Plaistow, NH, USA

problem #161

Aug 212015


  • 56,000 miles
I recently changed my own oil on this vehicle. When I was underneath of it I observed 1 medium sized rust hole thru the subframe and 2 smaller rust holes in the subframe. This is an issue with these vehicles after I further looked into the issue that others were having with this vehicle. I have pictures of this issue. This is known as cradle rot. The lower motor mount of the engine is bolted into this subframe. And if continues to get worse the engine can fall out of the vehicle. Not only I have 3 holes in it there is a lot of rust on this subframe that looks could be more of an issue in the years to come. I do not understand thru all the years of being under vehicles this is by far one of the worse I have ever seen. I do not feel safe now driving this car. Especially with my family in it. This car may be 10yrs old but has low miles and is in very good condition. You would never know by looking at this vehicle inside and out that there is something majorly wrong underneath it, unless you yourself crawled under it. And the vehicle has always been garage kept.

- Cambridge, OH, USA

problem #160

Aug 272015


  • 118,000 miles
On routine check by my mechanic, he noticed that the engine cradle had rusted so badly that he can stick his fist through one section. Called Chrysler corporate and opened up a case with them. They told me to take it to the dealership for a "diagnostic". called Chrysler back and told them the Pacifica was at the dealership and they could call to get the results. They refused to speak with the dealership and told me I was out of warranty and that they would not replace the defective part. Why send me for a diagnostic then"? just to get my $125 dollars?" extremely frustrated. Chrysler dealership mechanic said he would not be driving his family around in the car if it were his…. this seems to be a recurring problem from what I have found on line. Please investigate!

- Manasquan, NJ, USA

problem #159

Aug 242015


  • 116,970 miles
I was recently at the dealership to receive a routine oils change when I was informed by them that the engine cradle has become rusted and may in the future fail. And according to Chrysler, my vehicle isn't covered by their recall. This should not be the case, as it fits the description of all the other vehicles covered by their recall.

- Perrysburg, NY, USA

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