Huge win for car owners! All TSBs to be made public. The Center for Auto Safety just made the NHTSA (US Government) make public the full text of all TSBs from now on. They are the same organization that has petitioned the NHTSA & filed lawsuits to protect car owners over exploding gas tanks & other major safety issues. Whenever you drive in your car, you are safer thanks in part to a lot of work over the years by this small but very effective consumer advocacy group.

Please take a moment & say thank you by donating $5 or whatever you can to the Center for Auto Safety. Notes: Engine cradle rot is a serious problem in the 2004-05 Chrysler Pacifica. Chrysler admits they didn't apply enough coating to the vehicle's sub-frame during assembly, but only offered to cover a very small portion of the vehicles they messed up.

So what happens when your engine cradle rots? Well, the engine could fall out for starters. It could also cause problems with the suspension and other components but did I mention THE ENGINE CAN FALL OUT? The worst part is you might not know because there's no way to see the problem without getting under the car.

If you have a 2004-05 Pacifica, make sure to have your mechanic inspect your sub-frame for rust and corrosion.


hardly worth mentioning
Crashes / Fires:
0 / 0
Injuries / Deaths:
0 / 0
Average Mileage:
103,734 miles

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2005 Chrysler Pacifica Owner Comments (Page 1 of 8)

problem #158

Jan 272015


  • 90,578 miles


At 90,562 miles felt vibration under uphill load. Dealer evaluated and serviced trans w/filters and fluid with no result. (see scan 0008) went on to install new torque converter with no result. (see scan 0009) took car in for tune-up, and mechanic saw that engine cradle was rusted through on 1 side about 18". took car to dealer for damage documentation and estimate of repair (see scan 0010) classified by dealer as major defect that will soon make the car road unworthy. My intention was to keep the car for at least another 80K miles.

- Woodstock, IL, USA

problem #157

Sep 292016


  • miles
Engine cradle is rusted almost all the way through and engine can fall out.

- Cincinnati, OH, USA

problem #156

Sep 222016


  • miles
My engine is about to fall through the SUV because of rust and after reading up on this...this isn't the first case of this happening and I don't understand why this hasn't been recalled!!!

- Amelia, OH, USA

problem #155

Sep 152016


  • 183,000 miles


Just got new tires no mention, they used floor jacks. Getting new front struts and rear wheel spindles (getting ready for winter) and my mechanic showed me the cradle rot and said he wouldn't touch it and explained the safety issues related. Cost potentially associated with repair. Cost to repair is more than the vehicle is worth.

- Amherst, OH, USA

problem #154

Aug 052016


  • 107,000 miles
Front subframe, engine cradle is rusted so severely that my mechanic said that it is no longer safe to drive, must be replaced at a cost of approx $2000 car was purchased by me new in 2005 and garage kept only 107,000 miles

- Phillipsburg, NJ, USA

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problem #153

Aug 242016


  • 121,000 miles
Engine cradle is badly rusted through and needs replacement at a cost of $2,600 estimate from mechanic.

- Racine, WI, USA

problem #152

Jul 252016


  • 163,259 miles


My vehicle has less than average miles on it and the engine cradle has rotted so badly that our mechanic said it is not safe to drive, the manufacturer did not coat this part properly which caused this problem

- Easton, PA, USA

problem #151

Aug 052016


  • miles
Cradle rot on the under carriage

- Dublin, OH, USA

problem #150

Aug 032016


  • 128,000 miles
During a mechanical evaluation for a clunking noise and possible wheel bearing problem in the front end, the vehicle was raised on a lift for inspection. The engine sub-frame was found to be badly rusted with holes completely through the metal. The clunking noise was suspected to be the rotting sub-frame flexing while steering and acceleration/deceleration. The mechanic declined to make any repairs and I was advised to park the vehicle until the sub-frame could be replaced. I was also advised to call Chrysler since a recall was issued on a portion of these vehicles. My VIN number was not included in the recall, even though it had been manufactured at about the same time, was purchased in western pa and operated in the "salt belt". we've enjoyed owning this car and my wife wanted to retire the car to our home in Florida. She had just driven the car from Indiana to Florida on the interstate two months prior to discovering this sub-frame problem...the thought of that makes me cringe. Through no negligence on my part, I now have a vehicle that is unsafe to operate and the cost of repair will likely exceed the value of the vehicle..

- Valparaiso, IN, USA

problem #149

Aug 012016


  • 181,000 miles
We found that our car had a leak, which turned out to be a hole in the water pump. The service technician also told us that the subframe is rotting out and we should seriously consider looking for a new vehicle as this could become a very dangerous problem out on the road.

- Frankfort, IL, USA

problem #148

Jul 162016


  • 146,000 miles


The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica. While the vehicle was at an independent mechanic for routine repair, the mechanic diagnosed that the subframe was corroded. The vehicle was taken to multiple mechanics who diagnosed that the inner cradle needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 146,000. Updated 09/29/16

- Liberty Township, OH, USA

problem #147

May 102016


  • 81,500 miles
Engine and undercarriage rot,82000. Car engine works, but is unsafe to drive

- Cuyahoga Falls, OH, USA

problem #146

Mar 042016


  • 64,000 miles
I was informed during a routine oil change that my engine cradle was rotted out and could potentially fall out while driving. Apparently this is a common problem with this vehicle. It only had about 64,000 miles on it and other than a small amount of rust on the rear wheel wells, it is fairly rust free.

- Crystal Falls, MI, USA

problem #145

Jul 152016


  • 47,750 miles
Received notice on our annual inspection from garage that underbody all rusting out, specifically left front frame rail. Chrysler only doing a "silent recall" for this vehicle if built between February - March 2005. Ours built October. Not eligible. We have never been informed of this rust/corrosion problem by Chrysler.

- Bangor, PA, USA

problem #144

Jun 282016


  • 174,000 miles
I bought this car in 2011 all I have had with this car is problems after problems. First I was driving and the car stopped running it was something electrical then now my sub frame is no good it is rotted out rust all over the sub frame and I have two little girls in my car all the time and to top it off I'm still paying on this car to the bank what do I do not. I need someones help this is to much money for one person to pay when this was not my doing it was the car makers doing.

- Willimantic, CT, USA

problem #143

Jun 292016


  • miles
Rusted engine cradle

- Grosse Pointe Woods, MI, USA

problem #142

Jun 232016


  • 131,000 miles
The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica. While the vehicle was undergoing an oil change, the mechanic noticed that the engine cradle was corroded and needed to be replaced. The manufacturer was made aware of the failure and informed the contact to call NHTSA. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was 131,000.

- Orland Park, IL, USA

problem #141

Mar 122016


  • 145,000 miles
Have had a mechanic tell me after vehicle inspection that engine cradle on passenger side was almost completely rusted out. He feels the car is very unsafe to drive. Contacted fca was told no recalls or assistance would be provided. Didn't we the taxpayers bail this company out for no help.

- Brandon, SD, USA

problem #140

Jan 012016


  • 128,000 miles
The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica. While the vehicle was undergoing an oil change at a local service center, the technician noticed that the subframe and the engine cradle were corroded and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified. The failure mileage was 128,000.

- Cotely, OH, USA

problem #139

Jan 012015


  • 160,000 miles
The contact owns a 2005 Chrysler Pacifica. The contact stated that while at a local dealer for service, the technician made the contact aware that the subframe had corroded and needed to be replaced. The vehicle was not repaired. The manufacturer was notified of the failure. The failure mileage was 160,000.

- St Gary, IN, USA

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